I’ve also practiced Judo before and they are very different obviously. I’ve been practicing Tai Chi Chuan since 1989. This is important to note, because a lot of things make sense when there is a padded training cage or matt to compete on, but not so much in a self defence scenario. MMA is designed to be fought on a padded floor (in cage) with a referee and time limit, and so certain techniques and grappling strategies have been emphasised and very well developed. In the video below legendary boxing technician Lomachenko teaches some amateur boxers some of his ‘tricks’ – which are exactly the same as some standard Tai Chi striking drills. Full contact sparring: To develop experience in the realities of fun contact fighting. It’s other key advantage is that striking and wrestling are considered at all times and not trained with a separated mindset, which some MMA gyms may still use. Wudang Tai Chi Chuan has always stated the ‘stillness in motion’ is one of the qualities that you should seek to cultivate as a priority in your martial arts training. He gained prominence online after he was filmed defeating self-proclaimed Tai chi master Wei Lei in 2017. And it wasn’t pretty. Kung Fu was better because it uses internal strength, w Tai Chi Chuan’s origins are obscure and not known for sure. Hand wraps are not relied on as its a self defence/bare handed focus. A lot of it however is quite ‘pseudo-science’. All of them are practiced to be implemented in the standing position. Read about our approach to external linking. Also training weapons based martial arts gives you a different appreciation of possibilities for attack and defence when confronted by someone who has a weapon. This expands your creativity and awareness of possibilities as a fighter, particularly for spinning techniques. Going to ground is not the objective at all. I needed some hardcore training partners. Video, How dogs are helping Tasmanian devils find a mate, Huge Chinese 'fishing fleet' alarms Philippines, Miami imposes curfew over spring break 'chaos', Diversity review under way at Buckingham Palace, Death sentence for Pakistan motorway rape pair, Young couple's house swept away near Sydney, Fireball meteor behind 'sonic boom' noise, Saudi oil giant sees profits fall nearly 45%, Watch the fight and an interview (in Chinese) on BBC Chinese. MMA has a very well developed set of kicking techniques, with some fighters successfully incorporating the more athletic kicks from Taekwondo etc. What we tend to see in modern MMA is that being a strong standing wrestler is of tremendous benefit to prevent being take down, to control where the fight takes place, and also to throw or takedown the opponent. The Indian factory making 6,000 syringes a minute. The winners of five different bouts against him would each take home a reward of 1.5m RMB, he said, while the loser would pocket 500,000RMB. You learn intangible things through actually doing something, that nobody can tell you. Mr Xu told BBC Chinese he doesn't know why. The MMA trainer’s relentless campaign to “expose fake kung fu” shows no sign of slowing down. Soon we had a group with Olympic wrestlers, Thai Boxers, western boxers and BJJ and Sambo people. To support this channel, visit https://sinclairinternalarts.com/donate/Watch with the SOUND ON before commenting! The Royal family liked what he was doing so much that they also received training from him, though the focus of this training is likely to have been quite different, and some people speculate that this is where the syllabus began to be split. Xu Xiaodong is back… again. With … Xu Xiaodong (Chinese: 徐晓冬; born 15 November 1979), nicknamed "Mad Dog", is a Chinese mixed martial artist (MMA) who is known for challenging and fighting fraudulent martial artists. Apart from gaining lots of invaluable experience of using my art against very tough and determined martial artists, I learned that my system of Tai Chi Chuan was complete in all ways and could prepare anyone with a modicum of natural inclination to fight very well against all styles of opponent. He previously posted a video where he paid an MMA fighter, Pete Irving, to fake spar him in an attempt to validate his Tai Chi skills. Most MMA striking comes from Muay Thai, western and ‘Dutch’ boxing as well as a few trapping based innovations. Essentially ‘MMA’ is just a ruleset and not necessarily an approach to martial arts – with each group having their own training mix. While classified as a martial art form, tai chi is a much slower and more philosophical discipline than other forms of kung fu, with many people practicing it for its health benefits. For some unknown reason though, the vast majority of Tai Chi and Chinese martial artist choose to practice in a way that has almost no practical fighting benefit. They are powerful and often combination striking, along predetermined and drilled combinations is carried out. But Mr Xu, who has studied traditional martial arts himself, claimed these stories were overblown, and that there was a lot of fraud and hypocrisy in martial arts industry. Staying rooted and using this momentum is extremely useful. Inner strength training: To train mental focus, awareness and tranquility. The other area of advantage is the Tai Chi emphasis on using power and momentum to your advantage, and this becoming a conditioned instinct. Practicing the slow motion forms, the meditative techniques of the neigong exercises and the emphasis on tranquility during intense san shou drilling, wrestling and sparring eventually will help you to develop this stillness. Combat and self defence can simply be viewed as a battle…, Training in the 24 Yin and Yang neigong exercises of Tai Chi is a core practice of advanced…, Traditional Tai Chi training consists of many fascinating and enjoyable practices which can benefit you in a variety…, 100 day neigong training: The 24 yin/yang neigong system. After China's martial arts association said this betrayed the ethics of the artform, a video appeared of Mr Xu apologising for being too arrogant. I also participated in the UK’s first professional MMA fight night – ‘night of the Samurai’. Some of the guys from this group went on to have illustrious careers in MMA at UFC/world level. I love MMA and I’ve been watching it since it first started and believe it to be a great development for martial arts in general. VideoHow dogs are helping Tasmanian devils find a mate, The Viking warrior discovery that shook the academic world, Masks and social distancing 'could last years'1, Huge Chinese 'fishing fleet' alarms Philippines2, Miami imposes curfew over spring break 'chaos'3, Diversity review under way at Buckingham Palace4, Death sentence for Pakistan motorway rape pair5, Young couple's house swept away near Sydney6, US defence secretary on unannounced Afghan visit7, Fireball meteor behind 'sonic boom' noise8, The website helping to sell homes with a bloody past9, Saudi oil giant sees profits fall nearly 45%10. Your email address will not be published. There are body locks, lower body takedowns (single and double leg), knee taps as well as foot sweeps and trips. But there's no sign of another fight happening anytime soon - Xu Xiaodong has gone quiet, retreating to further study martial arts. In a way having well developed weapons skills, in addition to unarmed skills, makes you more of a mixed martial artist than modern ‘MMA’. If MMA has taught us anything, it is that no single traditional style is sufficient to reign supreme versus all comers. Xu Sheng said he wanted to "wake the Chinese martial arts dream", and that he has been approached by many masters about the offer. I mean, how many more old guys do … Generally they including a good amount of Muay Thai, Olympic style wrestling and brazilian Ju Jitsu. There are body locks, lower body takedowns (single and double leg), knee taps as well as foot sweeps and trips. The other aspect of of self defence to be considered is weapons, particularly in London these days. But it instantly becomes “MMA” because it fits the story created so far. The Tai Chi guy had horrible control, horrible root, and horrible stance. In the traditional Wudang Tai chi syllabus there’s a strong emphasis on developing striking power from the ground up (think Mike Tyson/Joe Louis style mechanics), so that the whole body is used to generate power. So it looks like the online battle between tai chi and MMA is not yet over. This has “Disney classic” written all over it. He has also been charging up to 18 RMB to ask him a question. This really isn’t the case, in this system of Tai Chi. A full repertoire of trips and sweeps used against incoming strikes is something that can be seen in certain high level MMA fighters (Zabit, Jon Jones etc). Additional reporting by Jiangchuan Wu, BBC Chinese, Mixed martial arts 'not like a bar fight', As it happened: Another record-breaking vaccine day for UK. Why Is ‘Tai Chi VS MMA’ An Argument? As for the Tai Chi guy vs MMA guy. On 3 May, he answered 19 questions. There are also close quarter techniques aimed at vulnerable areas for self defence – throat jabs etc, which can be used if you have clinched the opponent or immobilised them temporarily. In most ways this is not a terrible thing, because he is on a mission to expose the fraudulant or delusional practitioners who don’t actually teach practical fighting skills. Tai Chi and MMA wrestling share a lot of common features. The Tai Chi master's issue was his "hit fear". The sessions would be a great way of finding out more about these other approaches and find out how to adapt skills to meet their challenges. You will then be in an optimal position to perform at a much higher level. The ability to use your trained techniques in the heat of a fight or self defence encounter relies on a lot of variables. Fighting techniques and drills: Using repetition practice, reflex drills and pad work to develop a full array of striking, grappling and throwing techniques, including locks and limb breaks. Just … Video: Watch MMA fighter finish tai chi ‘master’ with a jab . Don't defend people who claim to be Masters and yet turn out to be a poor representation of the the system that they claim to be experts of. Masks and social distancing 'could last years', US defence secretary on unannounced Afghan visit, Why some Americans are choosy about vaccine, The website helping to sell homes with a bloody past, The Indian factory making 6,000 syringes a minute. MMA wrestling comes primarily from olympic style wrestling, and in some cases feature a slightly different philosophy due to the environment in which they are normally executed. In a style vs. style matchup, Ma Baogo, a 69-year old Tai Chi ‘master’ was challenged by a 50-year old MMA hobbyist. Tai chi-guy rushes MMA-guy early on and lands some punches before the fight goes to the ground. Unfortunately the negative publicity from these challenges for arts like Tai chi, will further tarnish its already weak reputation as a fighting art. What made it famous and get out into the world was the appointment of a gentleman named Yang Lu Chan, to the position of chief instructor to the Manchu imperial guard. The latest contest, vs. Tai Chi expert Chen Yong, on November 28, was two years in the making, and lasted 10 seconds. And Mr Xu clearly agrees - he has challenged all of China's martial arts masters to a fight to further prove his point. The long-awaited showcase battle was intended to prove whether tai chi could really be a match for the modern, highly aggressive fighting discipline of Mixed Martial Arts (MMA). The most common martial arts used by professional MMA fighters are muay thai, wrestling, jiu-jitsu, boxing, karate, taekwondo, and judo with the best fighters using a combination of devastating techniques. He said the point of martial arts was not so much the fighting as the philosophy and discipline behind it. Taekwondo was better because legs are stronger than arms. Tai Chi master challenges MMA fighter and the fight ends in 10 seconds December 8, 2020 6 Chinese MMA fighter Xu Xiaodong gained prominence in 2017 for exposing "fake kung fu" in China and obviously fake kung fu people in China got angry. Other tai chi practitioners began challenging Xu both online and in person, setting up camp outside the MMA gym in Beijing that he manages. After participating in some trial fights and comps I was invited by Lee to fight for the Heavyweight Championship. Wudang Tai Chi however, wins as a martial practice because it has very similar practical techniques but also has a theoretical body of work that adds depth and richness to the practice. Beyond experience, technical ability and good conditioning you also need to have an optimised mindset. Reply. The Aftermath of that MMA vs. Tai Chi Incident – Omega’s Take In an almost comical proposal, mma fighter Xiaodong Xu and Tai Chi “master” Lei Wei decided to “cross hands” in a … A Chinese entrepreneur is offering a reward of $1.45m to anyone prepared to take on a top class fighter. Experience is a really important aspect, which is why a serious martial artist must experience good sparring at some stage (though how much, how hard and how often is open for debate). I was invited to participate because after learning Tai Chi and practicing intensively I’d begun to become interested in UFC type events, because of the emergence of the UFC1 video. Ying vs Yang However, one particular showdown between a tai chi master and a mixed martial arts (MMA) fighter that happened in China last week ended in a mere 10 seconds. This concept is exactly the same as the ‘flow’ concept discussed in a lot of books and scientific research. © 2021 BBC. Below is my own teacher, Dan Docherty, knocking out someone who outweighed him by more than 100kg – a challenge he took on to prove that Tai Chi skills give you the ability to defeat much larger opponents. Think about it: Two styles of fighting squared up against one other, in a battle for honor. There are techniques to attack the knees, wrists, spine, knees, elbows and ankles. Tai Chi strength and conditioning has advantages in many key ways. Most people do not train the art in anywhere close to it’s full potential, but for those that do there are all the practical fighting skills of modern sport fighting systems, as well as many more avenues for potential development. When weeks of planning came to reality, at a venue in Chengdu, Mr Xu soundly beat Wei Lei. As the art was handed down it appears that for the vast majority of people the practice focus changed to only working with the ‘health development’ and more philosophical aspects of the art. Training would therefore be simple, direct, quick to work and militarily focused and necessarily effective. Kickboxing/striking skills out in the open and in the clinch/grappling positions are essential and most fighters at the world level have accomplished ‘stand up skills’. Extremely strong legs and trunk muscles, as well as powerful shoulders and arms are developed by standard Wudang Tai Chi conditioning exercises, all of which are invaluable for high level wrestling and striking  ability. During this development period  I sought out various other people, some of whom were introduced to me by Mr Hasdell, and we began to meet up and train together, focussing on all-in style competition. Video, The Indian factory making 6,000 syringes a minute, How dogs are helping Tasmanian devils find a mate. Also builds focussed power and whole body strength and energy. The main difference here is that in Tai Chi it is built into the art and is a fundamental concept, whereas in MMA it isn’t and will be something the practitioner will have to find for themselves. In Wudang Tai Chi there are also a lot of different clinching, trapping and jamming techniques and drills to be used when striking with an opponent. The rebranding of this as MMA vs Tai Chi to fit the narrative. Smart modern biomechanists talk nowadays about ‘the double pulse’ when referring to elite ways to condition for striking, though Tai Chi practitioners have been doing this for centuries – calling it ‘fa jin’. Tai chi master Wei Lei lost to the pounding hands of MMA fighter Xu Xiaodong in front of a large audience even before he could strike a different pose. Full contact sparring has always been a staple in this style of Tai Chi. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. It was an event created by Lee Hasdell, a professional martial artist who had a background in fighting kickboxing and Muay Thai, as well as participation in various bare-knuckle MMA events in Russia. It refines the use of extremely focussed, ballistic power movements. The fight was over almost before it began. This means to be able to be calm and completely present and in the moment (stillness) whilst there is significant motion (fight/conflict/high stress environment. MMA wrestling comes primarily from olympic style wrestling, and in some cases feature a slightly different philosophy due to the environment in which they are normally executed. I've actually got a number of friends who are big into the tai chi world and other martial arts and I thought I'd see if they'd heard of all of this and they didn't have a clue and when I explained they just shrugged and basically said "hey **** happens who cares that's life" The fight lasted only 20 seconds - Mr Xu says he had bested his opponent within seven seconds. MMA vs. Tai Chi loss explained - Before the rise of mixed martial arts, exponents proved the value of their discipline by talking about it. Xu rose to fame in 2017 after his ten-second defeat over a martial artist previously billed as “one of the greatest tai chi masters in China”. He also was being trained by one of the ‘shoot fighting’ pioneers, Akira Maeda – the founder of ‘Rings’ – whose tournaments featured legends of the MMA scene like Randy Couture, Renato Babalu and Fedor Emelianenko. Of course elite MMA people will be experts at achieving similar states, with each person having their own approach. China's martial arts novelist Louis Cha Leung-yung (pen name Jin Yong) also portrayed heroic martial art heroes who could march through battlefields alone and unarmed to defeat thousands of invaders. The objective of MMA training in the modern era is to give the average practitioner a well rounded set of skills to be able to deal with full contact fighting performed in a ‘cage fight‘ scenario and using ‘cage fighting’ rules. There are techniques where you hold and hit (illegal in boxing) and striking techniques with the forearm, elbows, and palms. For example in Olympic wrestling double leg takedowns are often done by grounding yourself and the opponent, whereas in Tai Chi the objective is to keep your feet firmly planted on the ground. MMA has grown in popularity in the West in recent years, and combines multiple disciplines from various cultures such as kickboxing, wrestling, Muay Thai and Judo. These tend to be seen more in fighters coming from a Greco Roman wrestling background, though some fighters with a strong Muay Thai base also show good head control. But all the moves and drills are in the syllabus if you do want to fully develop your ‘all in’ martial arts skills. Essentially the reason I give Tai Chi the win in this category is because it’s a completely no nonsense and very efficient yet highly sophisticated approach to building an optimal combat physique that is only focussed on what works. Submission skills and ground positions skills are also essential, but unless one of the fighters is an absolute specialist on the ground, submissions are a little rarer than they once were. There are a lot of interesting developments and the certainly isn’t one uniform approach to it. An MMA fighter has shamed a self-proclaimed Tai Chi master who challenged him to a duel to prove his kung fu is not a scam. Street attacks often feature more momentum than fights in a ring or cage by well trained fighters, because the attackers usually are less skilled and experienced, but also have more emotion and malice, so they put more into what they are doing. Your mind is essentially far more focussed on the skill and event at hand, with all access activitiy impaired so that your body and mind can better sync up and perform. Since 2017, he has held a series of viral bouts against Tai Chi masters, going undefeated, and incurring the wrath of powerful elements in China, because of the significant role Traditional Martial Arts play in Chinese culture. Stamina training for fighting should feature a lot of highly specific exercises to condition the body in the ways it’s most likely to be used in a real high intensity fight. This is because it emphasises distance control, develops the ability to stay on your feet and be rooted, whilst having a full repertoire of high impact strikes. In the last couple of years a Chinese MMA practitioner has been going around in China and fighting (and KO’ing) a number of traditional martial arts practitioners. Millions of people have since watched video footage of the competition, and it has triggered a huge discussion in China on whether traditional martial arts - or wushu - can ever truly be effective in combat. Traditional Tai Chi practitioners somehow knew a long time ago about the use of specialised interval training techniques designed to provide an almost perfect cardiovascular conditioning approach for full contact fighting. In MMA there have been some fighters (like Randy Couture) who specialise in clinching and hitting, and using various types of trapping techniques. He said his aim with the fight was to expose the fakes, and show that the old ways are no match for modern fighting methods. It’s important to understand that training to be a ‘fighter’ is not the same as learning self defence and that there are compromises to be made, in terms of training safety and ethics. Xu Xiaodong turned the Chinese martial arts community on its head two weeks ago with his highly controversial fight against Wei Lei, a master of the ancient art of tai chi. A 69 years old Tai Chi “master” vs a 49 years Sanda fighter After the miserable Tai Chi’s figure in the fight between Xu Xiaodong and Wei Li (read MMA vs Tai Chi 10 seconds knock out: an explanation), here we have another episode of the fake-kung-fu’s saga. Required fields are marked *, The power of Tai Chi’s 100 day Neigong methods The Wudang system of Tai Chi consists of 5…, How does Tai Chi pushing hands work? Xu Xiaodong, an MMA coach from Beijing, took down Tai Chi … "I knew Chinese football industry was corrupt - now martial arts," said one. Our system of Tai Chi was famous in Asia for training fighters who routinely smashed other full contact fighters in open Lei Tei competitions. It’s interesting to see over the years certain techniques falling in and out of fashion, both in striking and grappling scenarious. Where Chinese entrepreneur Xu Sheng, has offered a total prize pot of 100 million (RMB) … $1.45 million. The fight is actually between two practitioners of Chinese styles – one is Tai Chi/Xing Yi and the other is San Da, which is a homegrown Chinese kickboxing style. Traditional Wudang Tai Chi trains the use of Sabre, Sword and Spear, whose techniques can be adapted to be used with day to day objects. Weapons training: To build extra power, speed and movement capacity and skill. They have essentially neutralised each other now. Some years after the first UFC event in America, a commentator coined the term ‘mixed martial arts’, which has stuck around ever since. Tai Chi and MMA wrestling share a lot of common features. We recently tweeted out a story emanating from China, which has taken hold in the combat sports world. Like Greco Roman wrestling, Tai Chi wrestling emphasises dominant clinch skills, through fixed step and restricted step ‘pushing hands’. Fighting drills and applications also build skills for being able to use weapons for self defence and fighting. Traditional Wudang Tai chi also has a full repertoire of kicks, though these tend to be aimed lower because of the self defence emphasis of the art. It’s also subject to a lot of fads and fashion, rather than always being focussed on the absolute fundamental truths of conditioning. Viewers could pay him 1 RMB ($0.14; £0.11) to see his answers to questions like whether he thinks Wu Jing, a famed Chinese martial arts actor, has genuine battle skills. Read about our approach to external linking. In fact that’s probably the main area where Tai Chi wrestling techniques differ, the objective is to always remain firmly rooted and in the standing position. The emphasis in Tai Chi on using minimal strength and development of high level sensitivity encourages skill development too – and is something you can see in high level wrestlers. The objective of Tai Chi Chuan training in the martial Wudang tradition is to be completely ‘devoid of delusion’ – which is almost the opposite of most Tai Chi schools, particularly the ‘energy’ schools. They can often be seen in Chinese public parks in the morning, slowly stretching out their arms. Some brazenly wandered in to pick fights. These were the special forces, weaponised soldiers responsible for protecting the Royal family. 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